TOC Thinkers

Eli Schragenheim and Bill Dettmer - Supply Chain Management at Warp Speed

It's not every day you get to chat with two of your heroes ...

I've just completed a fascinating interview with two of the TOC Worlds most brilliant and innovative thinkers. Bill Dettmer and Eli Schragenheim. Although the focus of the interview is on their new book "Supply Chain Management at Warp Speed" we also wander off into some other fascinating areas. They've got some great book recommendations between them, for example. Plus they talk about their next publishing efforts. Oh, and Bill mentions the key reason why you'd want to buy the book - it's the first public viewing of the TOC solution to ************** (you'll have to listen to find out). I can't tell you how pleasurable this session was for me - to chat with two of my heroes. 

You can order the book here: http://www.amazon.com/Supply-Chain-Management-Warp-Speed/dp/1420073354/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1239384783&sr=1-2

You're probably best to download the file files directly.  Here's Part 1  and here's Part 2.  Why two parts?  'coz computers suck and my recording software went a little wonky.  You'll miss about 30 seconds worth of conversation but Bill revisits that near the start of part 2.  I hate computers.

The recordings last about an hour and a quarter all up.

Eli Schragenheim - 3 quick questions.

If you are not in the mood for a podcast then here are 3 questions from Eli Schragenheim.

I'd like to ask you a few things about your background in TOC, what you are currently working on, what you are most proud of, and whether you would ever write a Dilemmas 2 book?

1.  I started working for Dr. Goldratt in 1/1/85.  I got the job described this way:  "A programmer to develop a computer game for adults that will teach them how to think".  Later I went with Eli Goldratt to start Goldratt Institute, became a partner, and resigned in 1991.  Continued to do TOC, consult, teach and develop educational tools.  In 1998 Eli Goldratt asked me to re-join him.  Now I'm part of the Goldratt Group and especially The Goldratt Schools.

2.  I'm most proud when I succeed to convince Eli Goldratt to see certain things my way.  In the last two years Goldratt has formally adopted the notion of Simplified DBR, which Bill and I developed.  He even developed it further, but I'm still quite proud on that.

3.  Dilemmas 2?  I'm not sure.  I might write a full fictional story about management, with more emphasis on drama than on teaching.

Eli Schragenheim

I had the great pleasure of chatting with Eli Schragenhim - author of Management Dilemmas, co-author of Manufacturing at Warp Speed, amongst other things.

You can listen to the two recordings here:

Part 1 - http://clarkeching.libsyn.com/index.php?post_id=302325 - which ends suddenly due to network problems.
Part 2 - http://clarkeching.libsyn.com/index.php?post_id=302327

We start slowish, but warm up after about 5 minutes.  It was probably the most interesting and revealing conversation I had during 2007.  Eli made a few unexpected revelations too.  I hope you enjoy!

I'll soon publish a chat with Alex Knight about his work in health care.  And, in February I'll be sharing a remarkable story about the use of TOC in Singapore prisons.

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Clarke Ching
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